{"id":22177,"date":"2009-11-03T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-11-02T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.barcelonatribuna.com\/el_saber_y_el_saber_hacer_asociaciones_colegios_profesionales_y_otros\/"},"modified":"2009-11-03T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-02T23:00:00","slug":"el_saber_y_el_saber_hacer_asociaciones_colegios_profesionales_y_otros","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.amicsdelpais.com\/es\/el_saber_y_el_saber_hacer_asociaciones_colegios_profesionales_y_otros\/","title":{"rendered":"El Saber y el Saber Hacer: Asociaciones, Colegios Profesionales y otros"},"content":{"rendered":"         <p class=\"link_ariadna\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amicsdelpais.com\/es\/publicaciones\">Publicaciones<\/a><\/p>                   <h1 class=\"wp-block-post-title\">El Saber y el Saber Hacer: Asociaciones, Colegios Profesionales y otros<\/h1>          <style>.kb-row-layout-id15198_fd4370-d2 > 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.kt-inside-inner-col{flex-direction:column;justify-content:center;}}<\/style>         <div class=\"wp-block-kadence-column kadence-column15198_459565-82\">             <div class=\"kt-inside-inner-col\">             <div class=\"autor_post wp-block-post-author-name\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amicsdelpais.com\/es\/author\/alexandre\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"wp-block-post-author-name__link\">Alexandre Blasi i Darner<\/a><\/div>             <div class=\"summary_post wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">Hace un tiempo le\u00eda un art\u00edculo donde el decano de una facultad recomendaba a los estudiantes que en la medida de lo posible no crearan nuevos grupos de actividades. Les recomendaba que se integraran en grupos que ya estuvieran en funcionamiento de actividades similares, no necesariamente iguales, y que a partir de las sinergias, la&hellip; <\/p><\/div>                           El saber i el Saber Fer: Associacions, Col\u2022legis Professionals i altres Fa un temps llegia un article on el deg\u00e0 d\u2019una facultat recomanava als estudiants que en la mesura del possible no creessin nous grups d\u2019activitats. Els hi recomanava que s\u2019integressin a grups que ja estiguessin en funcionament d\u2019activitats semblants, no necess\u00e0riament iguals, i que a partir de les sin\u00e8rgies, la generositat, la participaci\u00f3, el treball en equip (all\u00f2 que en parlem tant quan es tracta dels altres) aconseguissin fer m\u00e9s i a un cost menor.  Aquesta anotaci\u00f3 em porta a fer diferents consideracions. En el sector que potser conec m\u00e9s, el de les TIC, cada cop hi ha m\u00e9s iniciatives col\u2022lectives petites, locals, amb representaci\u00f3 (per\u00f2 local), que l\u2019\u00fanic que fan \u00e9s barallar-se entre elles per aconseguir un espai dins de la societat. Si busquem les confer\u00e8ncies, les taules rodones, els congressos, etc. que s\u2019organitzen sobre temes semblants cada any, en trobarem molts i penso que ens en sobren. <b>No f\u00f3ra millor menys associacions organitzades de la manera que m\u00e9s els agrad\u00e9s o coordinades entre elles de tal manera que hi guanyessin tots els associats, la comunitat i la societat en general? <\/b>Ja no vull pensar en que hi hagi alg\u00fa o alguns que se n\u2019aprofitin. El mateix val per a les organitzacions empresarials. En necessitem tantes? Ara si una persona o una empresa vol tenir les diferents sin\u00e8rgies s\u2019ha de apuntar a diferents lloc. Per aquest motiu, l\u2019anunci recent de l\u2019acord entre les organitzacions empresarials catalanes, Foment i Pimec m\u2019ha alegrat molt i \u00e9s un bon exemple per a Catalunya.  Un cas semblant \u00e9s el dels col\u2022legis professionals d\u2019enginyers? A les escoles ens parlen (o parlem) del valor de les sin\u00e8rgies, la del treball en equip i la col\u2022laboraci\u00f3, entre d\u2019altres, per aconseguir resultats. Per qu\u00e8 necessitem tants col\u2022legis d\u2019enginyers? Els metges nom\u00e9s en tenen un i molt fort, per cert. Qu\u00e8 estem defensant: una classe, una categoria o un espai i uns ingressos? En el m\u00f3n de la tecnologia tenim m\u00e9s coses en com\u00fa i a compartir que difer\u00e8ncies. Si acceptem la definici\u00f3 de Peter Drucker que la tecnologia \u00e9s el com es fan les coses, siguin productes o serveis, estem encarrilats en el saber fer i aqu\u00ed podem trobar la base de l\u2019enginyeria. Si els enginyers aconsegu\u00edssim emp\u00e8nyer en la mateixa direcci\u00f3, o m\u00e9s o menys, possiblement ens aniria millor col\u2022lectivament.  <b>La meva proposta \u00e9s un sol t\u00edtol d\u2019enginyeria, unes atribucions en funci\u00f3 de l\u2019especialitat de graduaci\u00f3 i amb una caducitat d\u2019aquestes atribucions que obliguin a reciclar-se i a actualitzar-se en funci\u00f3 del permanent canvi del coneixement.<\/b>  Possiblement seria una millor soluci\u00f3 i certament m\u00e9s econ\u00f2mica. Per arribar-hi, per\u00f2, necessitarem un per\u00edode transitori de ben segur, per\u00f2 com m\u00e9s triguem m\u00e9s lluny estarem de la soluci\u00f3.   Progressivament anem tenint unes definicions de professi\u00f3 poc flexibles i m\u00e9s allunyades de la realitat, i probablement estem perdent un temps preci\u00f3s en discussions vanes i buides de contingut per\u00f2 plena d\u2019egos i de negocis personals. Fa uns dies llegia una cita de Henry Kissinger on deia que les discussions acad\u00e8miques s\u00f3n les m\u00e9s violentes perqu\u00e8 estan centrades en min\u00facies. Hem d\u2019evitar anar per aquest cam\u00ed. En el proc\u00e9s transitori no \u00e9s necessari arribar a un sol t\u00edtol d\u2019enginyer d\u2019un salt. Sempre es poden fer acords parcials i transitoris per\u00f2 amb caducitat. 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